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PEOPLES BANCORP (PEBO)

Q2 2024 Earnings Summary

Reported on Apr 28, 2025
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  • Expansion of a Profitable Small Ticket Leasing Business: Management highlighted growing the portfolio from $80 million to over $220 million, with the business showing a pretax return of over 2 ROA and pricing structured to normalize charge-offs around 4.5%.
  • Operational Efficiency Gains from Technology Investments: The rollout of a new customer relationship management system has already reduced processing times from hours to minutes and improved cross-business integration, which can enhance overall revenue generation.
  • Stable Funding Base with Improved Deposit Cost Outlook: Deposit costs appear to be near their peak, with a shift toward retail deposits (including CDs with an average remaining life of 5 months) that could allow the bank to benefit from any future rate cuts in a timely manner.
  • Margin Compression Risk: The guidance indicates that accretion income, which contributed 28 basis points in Q2, is expected to decline by about 2-4 basis points each subsequent quarter, potentially compressing the net interest margin further.
  • Elevated Leasing Charge-Offs: The small ticket leasing segment is experiencing normalized charge-off trends around 4.5%, and although management is making adjustments, continued elevated net charge-offs in this higher-risk portfolio could negatively impact earnings.
  • Rising Funding Costs: There is concern about increased deposit costs—as noted by a 9 basis point rise in Q2—combined with a shift in the deposit mix that might pressure funding costs if rate cuts or other mitigating factors do not materialize promptly.
  1. Margin Outlook
    Q: Trends in CRE & C&I yields decline?
    A: Management noted that accretion income has diminished, leading to a 2–4 bps decline, yet core margins remain stable despite acquisition impacts.

  2. Margin Compression
    Q: How significant is margin compression?
    A: They expect consistent compression of about 2–4 basis points each quarter, contributing to a total accretion benefit of 25–30 bps for the year while keeping core margins largely stable.

  3. Deposit Costs
    Q: How high can deposit costs peak?
    A: Deposits costs increased by 9 bps and appear near their peak, with prospects for relief if rate cuts materialize later this year.

  4. Noninterest Income
    Q: What is your fee income target?
    A: They aim to restore fee-based income to historical levels near 30% of revenue, leveraging insurance and trust segments to hit around $20 million annual revenue in that line.

  5. Leasing Charge-Offs
    Q: What is the leasing charge-offs guidance?
    A: Management expects charge-offs in small ticket leasing to remain stable in the third and fourth quarters, maintaining risk-adjusted returns despite slight delinquency upticks.

  6. Leasing Drivers
    Q: What drives leasing charge-off normalization?
    A: Upgrades and paydowns, especially in classified loans, are normalizing charge-offs to around the expected 4.5%, reflecting pricing based on historical performance.

  7. Leasing & Rates
    Q: Will lower rates improve leasing quality?
    A: A decline in rates should help ease current pressures on leasing, although the fixed-rate nature means dramatic changes are unlikely.

  8. Leasing Balance
    Q: Will leasing balances decline significantly?
    A: The core small ticket leasing business remains robust, and any decline in balances is expected to be nominal due to ongoing strong production.

  9. Tax Outlook
    Q: What is the tax rate expectation?
    A: The tax rate is anticipated to remain consistent in the back half of the year, around 22–22.5%, similar to early quarter performance.

  10. M&A Environment
    Q: What is the current M&A outlook?
    A: There is cautious activity with many boards waiting on rate and election outcomes, suggesting more M&A conversations may emerge next year.

  11. Liquidity Flexibility
    Q: How do unpledged securities aid liquidity?
    A: By relying on unpledged securities, cash reserves were reduced without sacrificing liquidity, as these assets can be quickly sold if needed.

  12. Technology Impact
    Q: How do tech investments affect expenses?
    A: New systems have significantly cut processing times by integrating operations, promising efficiency gains and stable expense forecasts going forward.

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